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Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:15 am
by ajscomboman
g80csp11 wrote:Rob , you wait until you see the welding on my crankcase - haha
I'd just sell it at a loss ASAP , I might even make you a low offer

Me, take a low offer! :rofl: Behave!

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:35 pm
by g80csp11
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Nothing to worry about unless you get heavy vibration under load / acceleration that comes before the MB gives up
you can see mine lost a rod in the USA during its desert racing days , welded back together but you can see how close it was to being terminal

I'm sure yours is fine !

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:38 pm
by Peter Morris
That's scary! :shock:

I thought I was hard done by with my broken chaincase halves. :rofl:

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:39 pm
by g80csp11
Also MB on driving side shows evidence of hammering under load , good job its in bits now for maintenance

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:41 pm
by g80csp11
All part of the joy of having a Norton 750 !
and what you don't know you cant worry about when you are doing 70 mph up the A5

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:04 pm
by ajscomboman
Speed you're moving at you'll be able to do mine if there's a problem. The gearbox is back together with all the mainshaft slop gone and it no longer clunks when you grab the clutch and waggle it. So that's got to help reduce some of the noise. Next step is to bolt the rotor and clutch back on without the chaincase to see if the noise has reduced or gone. If not then it'll be out with the motor even though nothing is obvious.

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:17 pm
by g80csp11
well not working and being on furlough helps with finding the time . now im considering a BE regrind to -.020 having removed the caps to inspect bearing shells
If it gets me another 10 years after this rebuild before the next one i'll be happy . ive lost rack of the mileage i've done, but its at least 2 speedo's

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:27 pm
by g80csp11
When did prices go up ? , checked the BE's and there is wear as expected , seeing as it supposed to be the last rebuild needed ( I wish ! ) it could ideally do with a regrind to -.020 but prices vary from 50+VAT to 70+VAT and 1 - 2 weeks
in my mind it was only going to be £15 per journal and done next day

I must be getting old

I'll have to scrimp somewhere else to save up, if that's possible

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:56 pm
by clive
g80csp11 wrote:

I must be getting old
Funny that isn't it Peter as my bikes get older so do I!

Re: 1967 P11 rebuild - Dynamite on wheels

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:12 pm
by ajscomboman
Well I've given up on mine. I've done the g/box sleeve gear bushes, kickstarter axle bush, shimmed it and everything is new and as it should be. Crank end float checked at 10 thou with a dial gauge. Oil changed without any debris or nasty stuff in it. Fired it up and for 20 seconds or so it knocks and then is quiet as a mouse. Runs sweet and the new clutch is perfect. The knock is much much quieter than it was and I'm running without any chaincase on. I've been all over the motor with a stethoscope and there is no knocking from any part of the motor anywhere. Maybe I'm just too fussy and been searching for something that really wasn't a problem in the first place. The only thing that has been pointed out is the oil pump drive ratio. Early bikes had 3 start drive pumps and later Atlas and Commando had 6 start pumps to fire the oil around quicker.